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B12 in Plant Source

germin8germin8 Raw Master

just thinking aloud I read in Living Cuisine that Comfrey has B12. While doing an internet search I learned that Lucerne, also known as alfalfa, also has B12. Fascinating. By the way, thanks for recommending Living Cuisine; I found it quite educational.

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  • spiritedmamaspiritedmama Raw Newbie

    That is very interesting. I haven’t gotten that book yet, but it is next on my list! So- helping you think out loud- would that imply that eating comfrey and/or alfalfa once or twice a week would be enough to obtain the necessary B12? Does it matter in what form…should we sprout it, or can we just sprinkly on foods, maybe put in smoothies? Or, I know it can be controversial in the raw food circles, but maybe make a comfrey tea?

    This is most intrigueing to me, as I had a person argue once against raw food/veganism because if our bodies absolutely need B12 and we cannot get it from any place but animal food sources, then isn’t a human really meant to consume meat, or at the very least dairy? I didn’t know exactly how to answer that.

  • ZoeZoe Raw Newbie

    We do make our own B12 but many believe that it is made too far down the digestive tract to be reabsorbed into our bodies, so we just poo it out. I believe that we were meant to poo it out onto the ground and have it mix in with the plants and eat it with the plants and reabsorb it that way. There was a group of Iranian raw vegans who fertilised their crops with their own poo and they were found to have high levels of B12.

    Gabriel Cousens wrote a long article which you can find by Googling ‘gabriel cousens b12’. In that he wrote that there is not sufficient b12 in seaweed, spirulina and all the other often quoted vegan ‘sources’ to help us sufficiently. He went on to say that the common solution of raw vegans which is to eat unwashed veggies (b12 is a microbe found in soil) is still not going to provide enough. Even if he is right, I don’t think that this means being raw vegan is wrong, just that our food, lifestyle and soil is not as it should be, and once was.

    I nibble a tiny bit of a b12 pill every week or so – the doseage we need is a tiny amount, most pills are 9000% of the rda. I do this just so I don’t worry about being deficient. Because worrying is really dangeous to my health!!

  • Paul Fanny, the president of the University of Natural Health (one of the most highly regarded alternative health schools) wrote an article in the last Living Nutrition magazine that there is enough B12 created by the bacteria in our mouth, teeth, throat, and nasal cavities to provide us with enough B12 every day. The problem lies in the amount of available intrinsic factor that is produced by our bowels. If you have had any kind of bowel problem (IBS, IBD, SAD diet, etc.) the amount of intrinsic factor produced might be insufficient to use the B12. Intrinsic factor is necessary to digest the B12 and make it useable by our body. Testing for IF is probably a good idea.

  • I read that tofu made the correct way\traditional way has b12. That would be fermenting in banana leaves. I used to eat a lot of tofu and soy milk but I also had my period for about 9 months almost strainght. I thought I had ovarian cancer or something but once I stopped eating all the soy it stopped. I also read that soy can make men impotent and grow breasts.

  • ZoeZoe Raw Newbie

    OMG writeeternity I knew soya was bad but what it did to you sounds awful!

  • germin8germin8 Raw Master

    I also heard from Paul Volk that you can “create” B12 by brushing your tongue with a toothbrush (no paste) first thing in the morning… which is something SocaL was talking about. I don’t know how to maximize the amount of B12 in this or alfalfa, or comfrey. Very good question.

  • germin8germin8 Raw Master

    Thanks for the info.

    I got the info from: http://www.miraclecomfrey.net/nutrition.html

    And this website read “Mung Bean and Chick Pea sprouts which have being proved as rich in Vitamin B-12”: http://www.easygreen.com It also mentions Alfalfa as containing B12. It’s probably best to google this, I couldn’t get the link to work. www.easygreen.com/index.php?option=com_content&...

    I do not know which source is reliable or more reliable than the other. I don’t want to mislead anyone… I just want the facts. :o)

  • I just found this online and thought it was excellent!

    THE SAVOURY AVOCADO

    The avocado is a delicious fruit, from the Lauraceae family a native tree in the Northern Mexican Hemisphere.

    The avocado is free of cholesterol and sodium.

    It only contains 5 grams fat in 30 grams avocado. This type of fat is a monounsaturated fat, known as “good fat”.

    Avocado is the fruit that contains the most dietetic fiber, it has 60% more potassium than a medium banana.

    The avocado is rich in group B vitamins, preferably and high in folic acid; during pregnancy this is very important since the folic acid is essential in the formation of the baby’s neural tube.

    It also contains a lot of glutamine, which is an antioxidant which is necessary to capture free radicals that could harm our organism.

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