Vitamix a Toxic Blender ?!!
Your food is in the Vita-Mix for a just a moment, really. I don’t think it matters at all. Besides, do you realize that nickel (the blades are nickel) is a trace mineral that needs to be present in our bodies?? Just like when some people use cast iron for frying their eggs, they can sometimes can get some iron into their systems. This is good. I wish the Vita-Mix container wasn’t “toxic” as they say, but this really shouldn’t be a problem unless you’re heating your vita-mix container over the stovetop. That’s when plastic become toxic. Pretty much everything that I put in the Vita-mix is either cold or just room temperature, not heated. I don’t believe you can get much, if anything, off the container like that. If so, it would be no more then the toxics you come in contact in a normal day even with a 100% raw, clean air and excersise diet. That’s my opinion, correct me if I’m wrong.
Does anyone know if this is resolved in the new 5200 mixer? It looks as if they have changed the composition of the materials (no BPAs). I have thought about getting ont he waiting list, but after reading all your great posts I think I might stick with my dinky (but glass carafed) blender.
I agree with LotusLady and SkyPrincess.
Considering the state of todays world, I would be more concerned about other things that get in my body and not my blender being plastic. If you have a healthy raw diet, I wouldn’t worry about the plastic.
Think about how many things we buy are packaged in plastic, the condition of our water that we bathe in and drink, the pollution we breathe, the chemicals that are present on our new clothes and towels and beddings (unless you buy organic). You spend 8 hours or more sleeping – you breathe in those chemicals all the time for the time you sleep. Your stuff is in the VitaMix for not even close to that time.
I find it surprising when I met raw foodists who are really anal about everything they use when it comes to their food but than I go and use their bathroom at their homes and I find they use Crest toothpaste and commerical shampoos and conditioners and soaps on their bodies. You are working so hard with your diet to keep your bodies clean – but adding even worse toxins back in in other products and things you use.
I would be more worried about using THAT stuff than the plastic in my blender.
wow, this is just whack! nothing is safe! i have a cheap blender with a plastic caraffe, and i think i’m just going to toss it. but now you’ve got me wondering about the metal blade.
...and plastic water bottles! i never thought about it before. makes me want to get my own distiller.
i recently saw a new product that pulls water from the air and filters it through several processes, and it was the same size as a normal water coller, but without the bottle on top.
I’m with LLady and SPrincess…We can’t remove all the unhealthful influences from our lives, even though we’d like to. I’m soooo bummed that this is an issue, but I still believe I get more benefits from my VitaMix than the negatives. I am glad that mine is so old that it has a metal container and all I have to worry about is the blade, but for all I know that old container has nickel as well. Aambikalee summed it up – this just sucks!!!
In respect to Nickel being a mineral that we need, is not really the case.
There is a BIG difference between organic and in-organic metals, the last one being the main cullprit for so many diseases. The body simply cannot handle in-organic minerals (metals) !
Why, because those (mineral) metal particles are not in the right molecule size to be absorbed by the bloodcells. Instead the body still recognizes them as a mineral so it is being stored in our tissues or fat for later use, but ofcourse the body will never be able to use those way to big unnatural metal (mineral) molecules. So over time the body reaches it’s tax and will get metal or mineral poisoned because of all these in-organic so called minerals what it cannot get rid of.
And like someone said here that we need Iron, I totally agree, but not the Iron from pans, knives or other metalic objects. We need Iron that is organic, from fresh fruits and vegetables, because these metals (minerals) are all processed by plant life making them organic (to the right particle size and consistency) through the process of photosynthesis. The plant (also sea veggies) converts the soil minerals during it’s growing process to a for the body usable mineral (metal)
The human body is organic (Living), and so it is most beneficial for our bodies to obtain minerals from organic sources, such as fruits and vegetables. We don’t get the recommended amount of iron into our diets by chewing an iron pipe, yet this is the same type of iron we find in tap water if it has iron in it.
To clarify the above a bit better we could use the example of a well know mineral, namely Calcium. If you haven’t cleaned your shower for a week you will see that the shower wall and faucet are impacted with a fat layer of calcium. This is a perfect illustration how in-organic calcium looks like. How do you know it is in-organic ? Because this mineral has not been dissolved by the water that is running through the pipes, so after a few showers it becomes very well visible as impaction on the walls. This in-organic calcium form from which the particle size is way to big to be used by our body is being added by the water companies to make the PH (8) of the water higher, and this works the same for our body, as our bodies consists for 70% of water. So if a mineral is not water solluble then it is not able to enter our blood (water) cells, and thus not usable ! So you can also not say that people in general need Calcium, it should more be like people need organic calcium or any other form of organic (the right size) minerals. Some people even take calcium supplements, which is highly poison for the body, as this is not in an organic form. In the end it glogs up all your vessels, just like the shower wall looks like.
That’s why you should also never drink any plastic or glass bottled water what you buy in the stores, doesn’t matter what the label says. Why ? Because most of the minerals that are in this water have been manually added by the bottled water companies. Those minerals are synthetic (in-organic), and cannot be used by the body. They will only make the body sick !! Inorganic Iron, Calcium, Fluoride, Nitrate …Poison Poison Poison!
An interesting fact is that there exists a law that bottled water companies only need to use 20% of the water of the natural original source and the rest can be added with just plain tap water, and then those companies are still allowed to label their water as Natural water. ?!!
In this respect it is maybe interesting to know that conventional farming is where the vegetables or fruits are directly being sprayed straight on the plant or on the soil with all kind of standard for the farmer unknown formula’s of inorganic (synthetic) minerals, and even hormones and other poison to give a turbo to the growing process.
So those minerals are not reaching into the fruits or veggies through the soil, for that the plant life develops way to quick to absorb any reasonable amount of minerals.
Synthetic minerals is ofcourse something that the body cannot use as building block, only temporarely. The body will have to adjust (like a safety meganism) itself to this kind of “food” because it is not build to use it, over time this will make you sick.
This spraying that they do with all kind of hormones is because the commercial farmers keep raping the soil year after year by non-stop growing all kind of stuff on the soil without interruption, and so the soil never get’s rest to readjust itself to a strong natural survival balance, in other words become fertile.
Organic farming is where they treat the soil, where worms can live, micro-organisms, and natural compost is being used. And remember that compost is a natural building block for the growing of all those fruits and vegetables, that is where most of the minerals come from, thanks to all those living micro organisms that do the mineral converting work for the roots of the plants. So if you buy non-bio from the supermarket, you actually get Synthetic feeded veggies with all kind of unnatural (unusable) minerals in it, as it has been grown on dead soil. In other words full with fake minerals that have not been converted to the right particle size through the growing process. These in-organic minerals the body cannot use !!
Most people think that there is only a small difference between organic and in-organic farming, namely the last one is being sprayed with pesticides and the other one not. Well the most important difference between these two ways of farming is that there are almost NO organic minerals in those conventional grown fruits and veggies because they grew to quick thanks to all the added hormones. Besides that, the soil where they grow them in is sooo weak, mostly consists of dust without healthy amounts of micro organisms, that actually they HAVE to use hormones to keep the growing process of the plant going. Else nothing would grow on that land, only some wild weeds which have the sole purpose to restore the ground to it’s equilibrum. And pesticides are also needed in conventional farming, why, because the ground has no natural developed survival meganism (micro organisms) anymore because of all the rapings of the land. That is why we so often hear on the news that a new disease X has showed up in our fruits and vegetables, and that we need an even stronger pesticide !! And so it goes on and on until one day we need nukes (litteraly) to kill the bacterial plant diseases because the soil (micro organisms) have become so risistant against diseases. Similar to chemo therapy for a human body !
Why do you think that (genetically modified food) GMO fruit and vegetables where invented ? Exactly for this reason, as we are fastly approaching the moment when nothing will grow on conventional agriculture soil anymore. Nothing, nada, 0.0. It is similar to all those infertile woman (because of loads of toxins) nowadays who cannot get a baby anymore, and instead have a sperm seed with an egg planted into a glass jar, with some growth hormones added, to grow a baby in a jar! This is the insane world we live in today, everything is getting more and more artificial. If there is a problem we patch it, patch it again and then again until there is nothing more to patch. And we never get to the core of the problem, it is so sad. And for all this patching we constantly need new industries that where not needed before. This is the driving force behind the whole economy in the world, patching ! Without the need for patching we would live in a perfect world.
For everyone of you who have not watched this video please see this MUST WATCH
Controversial 5 minute video, it “funny” illustrates the above perfectly. It is a hardcore eye-opener how this whole economy scam works, that everything is based on patches.
And in respect to Biological farming. This is also not the perfect way to go, as here commercial interests also wants to achieve that the land is being used as much as possible, I mean land that is in rest without any forced plantings on it is waste (non $$) land for the Agricultural farmer. So they will always make a trade off between having given the land just enough time to rest and start planting new seeds again, which is often to soon. So there you also have an explanation why that Bio stuff is soo expensive.
That’s why it is still the best to avoid commercialy Bio and Non-Bio fruits and veggies all together, and instead if you can find the possibility pick up all your greens by yourself straight from Nature or growing it by yourself. Picking these edible weeds straight out of the forrest or any other untreated field. The advantage of this is that these wild edible weeds (incl. berries) have been growing on untreated land for tens (hundreds) of years without interruption to the soil from humans. As a result of this, the soil is loaded with minerals. Litterary loaded !!! And it won’t costs you a penny, just some research and work where to get it.
There exist a lot of books about wild edible weeds (incl mushrooms), with detailed instructions what is what, how it tastes etc.
I hope that this post about minerals made it a bit more clear that there a different forms of minerals and unusable in-organics for the body. And now back to the subject where this whole tread started with, namely the Polycarbonate bottles/containers. The thing is that Polycarbonate leaches Bisphenol A, and this TOXIC chemical is unlike many other toxins water soluble !!!
In other words when we ingest it, it fakes that it is an organic form. I repeat we consist for 70% out of water, so there is a lot of “water” where this toxic stuff can enter. As the molecule of this estrogenic hormone disruptor is sooo small it is able to enter the blood cells and influences our hormones and in the end cause reproductive damage and birth defects and also may lead to prostate and breast cancer over time.. It is like a trojan horse time bomb !!! So how will we ever get this Trojan horse out if our blood cells keep seeing it as a natural substance ???!!!
And to give my comment to someone who adressed the fact that our food doesn’t come long in contact with this type of highly toxic gas in the plastic is not really a plausible argument. It also has to do with the regularity you use the Polycarbonate blender, I mean as a serious raw foodist you would use your blender more then one time a day. I don’t know yet how many parts per million, parts per billion or parts per trillion of this toxic gas get’s into the food during a 45 sec. blend, but you can be sure it is more then what the body really needs.
And ofcourse how much of the food is chemically being altered during this blending process in a Polycarbonate container. And what about the erosion over time, I mean speedy wind/water erodes material. Why do rocks at water coasts have often round forms ?!! Because of the speed that the water moved over or against the rocks. And as we all know the speed of the Vitamix is enormous ! We can also conclude that the Polycarbonate is much harder then rock, but still it will erode by usage over time. And where do those eroded miniscule particles go to over time ?!
Our bodies are extremely sensitive to these sex hormones (Bispenol A), and miniscule amounts can already induce profound changes.
It’s just a matter that every particle of this highly toxic material is just one to much and besides that the body is also not able to get rid of this Bisphenol A, as I pointed out earlier because the body sees it as a nutural substance and thus it is allowed to enter the blood cells, so after time the body will one day reach it’s limit. With one sooner then the other person. Like with mobile phones, we all know it’s bad and still we keep using them, and if we just wait long enough we will one day reap the effects of it. That is how it always goes, science who aknowledges facts way to late that something was indeed toxic after all, but then the damage has already been done. And then, patch it again ?!
So why not take self responsibility now ? (The health authorities won’t do this for us)
And wishfull thinking that in the long run the good stuff might balance out the bad stuff (Bisphenol A) is not good enough for me, I prefer to have a certain solution that doesn’t keep me wondering everytime I blend something.
For comparison purposes, a mercury teeth filling also constantly gives of a toxic gas vapor, but like other toxins also won’t kill you overnight. Mercury in the mouth is in-organic, but when ingested or inhaled it becomes organic. Then it is also called methylmercury, as it took a complete different form of an even more dangerous form of mercury, by becoming a miniscule highly volatile particle (gas) that is even able to enter the blood brain barrier.
Mercury has similarities to Bisphenol A, the only thing is that Mercury doesn’t stay in the blood for too long, instead it stores itself in the organes and tissues. Unlike Bisphenol A that stays in the blood and by the heart is being pumped throughout the body millions of times a day, because the body thinks it is a natural hormone, so this garbage reaches every little corner. And then the thyroid which has to deal with this hormone disrupter get’s completely stressed with all the other possible consequences over a period of time.
What mercury poisoning concerns, it is a real slow process, until one day the body reached it’s roof of handling it (ofcourse this also depends how many M. fillings you have). So if one would want to measure the concentration of mercury in a highly mercury poisoned person then you will not find much through a simple bloodtest, sometimes nothing at all, as it is all stored in the organs and brain tissue. When you want to take the mercury out you just take Chrorella which works like a magnet, it just draws the positivly charged metal ions out of the negativly charged tissue so it can be grabed by the alga and transported out of your body.
While if you want to measure your body for Bisphenol A then you will find it all in the blood, but regrettably you cannot opt for those bloodtests at the doctor.
Ever saw in real life how much of toxic vapor constantly comes of a mercury filling ?
Then watch this:
I am asking myself what is this toxic vapor (what you can even smell) from the Polycarbonate containier doing with our veggies if it comes in contact with this toxic gas (Bisphenol A)
What if there is no real difference in the end result of this toxic gas release compared to the effect that Mercury has on our bodies. I mean who knows ?!
I am aware that there are so many toxins in this world, and that sometimes it almost seems impossible to live without them. But we should never neglect that there exists incredible large differences between the effect of one toxic material and the other.
Simple comparison, lead and Uranium. The latter being an almost instant killer !
Especially when toxins (like Bisphenol A) are like trojan horses just able to enter the blood cells without any form of barrier, and then the body even thinks it has to do with a natural substance, that is for me really worrying !!!
To summarize it all about effects of toxins on the body: When ingesting something the body immediately recognises if an ingredient(s) is toxic or not and it can instantly take proper measures to shield the body for any harm. The body has then only a few ways to do this:
1. Elimate the in-organic toxins immediately through the elimation organs (liver/kidney/intestines), but only if thery are in a good working state. In a weaker immun system it will be stored in the organs or fat for later elimination, or over time maybe released through the skin.
2. Nutralize with acids if possible (if the load is to much all of a sudden then through puking or diarrea)
3. Encapsulate it like little tumors, which is nothing more then an encapsulation of mobelized toxins. In that respect tumors are just a temporarely safety meganism for free moving toxins, get the toxins out (e.g. chelate) and the tumor will go. Most of the people are unaware that they have a lot of those “hidden” tumors in their bellies, but as long as the overload of toxins stays within a certain range the tumors don’t get inflamed. When they get inflamed then it is code RED. (cancer)
And because a toxin like Bisphenol A (Trojan horse) doesn’t fall into one of those categories above, as it is by the body being seen as a natural substance, an thus allowed to enter and stay in the blood cells, then all my alarm bells go off. And this is the very reason that I adressed this specific toxin and not all those other toxins that also exist. With all respect but we should not compare apples with pears.
Until now I have not found a similar water soluble toxin like Bisphenol A that is not being regonized by the body as a toxin, and as a raw foodist that worries me !!
And like I already adressed before in this tread, when you want to get your greens in it needs to be well enough chewed so the body can use it. If you miss your wisdom teeth, or worse even molars then you don’t have the natural tools to chew to the right consistency to make it small enough so the body can use it. For that we need a surogate, and thus a powerfull non-toxic (glass) blender ! Or maybe there is an other way to get the greens really small, but that I am not aware of yet. Still hardcore researching here.
I see both sides of the discussion. Although they both make a lot of sense, I feel that I prefer glass as a carafe material.
I am looking to buy a blender very soon and here is what I have found so far.
After a quick search for a powerful blender with glass carafe and SS blade, I have found the following.
The 2 main ones that fit these requirements are:
(1) Krups prep expert serie 7000. 1100 Watts. “silent” blending. ss blades. glass. cost $150.
(2) Black & Decker crush master. 475 Watts. ss blades. glass.cost $26.50
One horsepower equals 746 watts. Vitamix is 2 HP, so that is 1492 Watts. The Krups is closest in power to Vitamix, with benefit of ss blade and glass carafe. The second one(B&D) seems very inexpensive compared to all others.
Does anyone here have any more information about either of these blenders or a different one?
I am looking to buy one asap, mostly for nut milk based drinks.
Shaker: This is totally an important topic, but think about what queenfluff is saying, too. Our lives are filled with toxins that we can’t really control. She mentions mattresses and bedding, which we’re in contact with all night; the foam and fabrics in typical furniture; and then there are the carpets, wiring, insulation in our houses; the glue used on the wood in our cupboards, furniture and all kinds of things. Think about all the unnatural substances in your vehicle (if you have one). What are you absorbing from your computer as you type? (Don’t even look into this, you’ll be horrified.) We’re surrounded by toxic crap no matter what. Yes, avoid what you can. I do use a blender with a glass carafe and stainless steel blade, but the lid is still rubber, and there’s a rubber seal in there as well. One more plastic thing in your life is not going to make that much of a difference when you’re surrounded already – even if you do use it every day. You’ll go nuts if you think about this stuff all the time. Worry and anger are unhealthy, too. Spreading fear and negativity is what the media do – leave it for them. Do what you can and don’t dwell on the rest of it.
I agree completely with Shaker. Even though there is much in our environment which is toxic, we vote every day with our dollar and I’ll chose not to purchase something from a company which isn’t doing everything possible to minamalize those toxins. It all has to stop somewhere.
However, in respect to penfold’s comment about negativity, I do believe emotions/thoughts/actions to be at the core of health, but truth can be acknowledged in a postive manner also. It all depends how we chose it see it.
As for the organic vs inorganic minerals. Table salt fits into the same catagory as the later, this is why I only use kelp salt.
Also, about using chorella for mercury, using it in conjunction with cilantro is best. The cilantro will help move the mercury out of the cells so that the chorella can bind to it.
ananda, I hadn’t heard that Black and Decker produced blenders. I’m looking into buying the Oster behive blender as I’d read good reviews on Amazon.com. The Krups looks interesting though also.
Does anyone know if Jack Lalane’s blender has a glass carafe?
That is a real good find, thank you for that. I also found a few with a glass carafe, but they where not as powerfull as the Krups.
“Spreading fear and negativity is what the media do – leave it for them. Do what you can and don’t dwell on the rest of it.”
hmm, to bad that you compare me with the media for spreading fear and negativity. Don’t you see that the media is spreading false fear, while what I did is spreading info (what you call fear) that is based on facts. These kind of shocking facts you don’t hear on the media, instead we are only being fed with daily lies about everything. So to use your words, what I did was spreading a healthy fear, so people get the knowledge to change or become aware of something for the better. Fear is quite often the basic for change, and it up to the individuel to chose what to do with it. It can go into the positive direction or what our media is doing in the negative direction.
To use the mercury example again. If there where no people in the past spreading “fear” about mercury fillings and thus inform the public then the whole world would still have mercury fillings right now. Thanks to that fear mongering of a few individuals in the past people found out about the truth and could avoid a lot of unnesecary health problems, and as a result it was being banned in a lot of countries. The same as with Polycarbonate bottles, banned in Japan. Thanks to those fear mongering people !
To bad that the media never came out with the truth about mercury fillings in the past. Instead 20 million amalgam fillings a year are still being placed in people’s mouth in the USA alone, in the UK it is even worse.
If we would all be keeping our mouth shut to each other about life treatening things, and instead wait for the media to inform us then we would be all death in 10 years. I am glad that there are so many people in the world who are spreading “fear” about the truth that is being kept away from us.
“Our lives are filled with toxins that we can’t really control.”
The more we are aware of what is not good for us, the better choices we can make. As long as that we stick our heads in the sand we keep living in ignorance. Trying to avoid as many of the real hardcore toxins is still better then doing nothing.
Your fear mongerer ;-)
well i looked for reveiws on epinions and these were not highly recommended, so im still unsure. does the short time in the plastic container affect the juice/ milk?
i’m really glad i read all that, i will now reconsider buying a vitamix and stick with a glass carafe blender instead.
its true that there are toxic substances we can avoid only through moving into a little hut miles from civilization, but most of us are not prepared to take this slightly drastic measure, so we should all just do what we can.
thank you SoCal, good info
due to your article I have been just reading about dehydrators as I am going to buy one.Now…i red that those best dehydrators are polycarbonate and also contains Bisphenol a….do you all use them?? They should be the best dehydrators available on market.(excalibur)
Anyone ever heard of this company? Noble Juice They pack their juice in bottles made of 100% corn. It’s called polyactide or PLA. It’s supposed to be safe for the environment and non-toxic. I bought their juices several times from Walmart and I’d save the bottles to fill up with water. I never got that nasty plastic taste. Sad to hear about the vitamix. It was on my wishlist along with the excalibur.
Rawspring, congrats on your progress! Good to see you pop up here again.
Sorry Shaker, I didn’t mean to come across quite the way I did. I do think it’s very important for this information to get out there, and i’m glad you’re doing it. Too many people don’t know about common, avoidable and not, toxins in their environments (and I’m not trying to distance myself here from these “people,” suggesting I’m terribly knowledgeable or anything). It’s good to educate people and encourage them to, like Raw_Chocoholic says, vote with their dollar. You were just getting so worked up, I was starting to worry you’d pop! :) And I certainly dont’ think we should wait around for information from mainstream media (hahaha). I’m in total agreement that people should learn what’s off and do their best to avoid it – but I don’t think it helps if someone dwells for the rest of their life on the three years they used a Vitamix. It’s not healthy to worry if someone serves you a drink you later find out was made in a polycarbonate blender, or to refuse to drink water on a hike because the only water availabe is in a Nalgene bottle. That’s kind of where I was going with the fear thing – and I know you weren’t suggesting anyone be like that. By all means avoid whatever toxic stuff you can, but accept that it’s in all of our lives to a greater or lesser extent and don’t constantly think about your current exposure to this or that chemical. But yeah, don’t buy a polycarbonate blender and then you won’t have to worry about that particular thing!
ananda: I looked at a study quite a while ago on leaching in polycarbonate water bottles. Sorry, I don’t remember where I saw it or anything (maybe Shaker can help with that?), but they tested the water in the bottles over a period of a few days. I remember that after a day, the amounts of BPA were still fairly low (obviously any at all is too much, but…), and the amounts jumped significantly at two and three days. So having your food in there for a minute should have minimal effect, but then like Shaker says, scratched surfaces increase the leaching, and the blender’s whizzing everything around like mad, increasing surface contact… so I don’t know.
I’ve lost 15 pounds and trying to get off about 35 more. People are starting to notice. I have to admit, I haven’t been sticking to raw for a few months now. But I just love the food and it’s so good for you, so I’m trying to integrate more into my diet again.
I notice that it’s really hard to find a balance. But I think balance is the key. I never got one of those hi-tech blenders but I have a combo processor-blender by Oster. The blender part is less than satisfactory but I love the processor. It’s plastic and the blender carafe is glass. When I was mostly raw, I’d use the processor just about everyday. But I think doing mono meals and eating a lot of salads can keep you away from so much blending and dehydrating. I have to admit, I like trying so many of the raw creations. I don’t have a dehydrator so I use my oven.(Not sure if that’s any better).
Sorry, double post
“So having your food in there for a minute should have minimal effect, but then like Shaker says, scratched surfaces increase the leaching, and the blender’s whizzing everything around like mad, increasing surface contact… so I don’t know.”
Indeed, I think we should not underestimate the 1 minute “only” blend duration.
I mean that water test what you are referring to I also read somewhere, regrettably I don’t have the link anymore.
But the thing is that the Vitamix blade makes around 37,000 rotations per minute.
So in respect to this test we should not forget that this testing of the water for Bisphenol A has been done with bottles that where just filled and left alone for a few days, so minimal erosion because of friction of the material if at all. What if these bottles with water would for the test have been vigirously shaken by a driven motor, around 37,000 times (Speed of the Vitamix) for only a minute and then measure ?!
I would not be surprised if the outcome of such a test would show much higher concentrations of Bisphenol A in the fluid then the concentrations that where found in the water bottle test which only stood completely still for 3 days. Think about it, this would be like wild shaking the water in those Polycarbonate bottles around 37,000 times, what kind of invisible erosion (release) occurs then ?!
And also we should not forget that after (cold) usage of the blender, the blender container is being washed with warm(hot) water, and as the reports are showing with heat Polycarbonate releases the Bisphenol A even faster. So after usage of the PC container what kind of effect will a few hot cleanse rinses have, will we flush it all out or will this released poison just get into our next smoothie blend ? And we also cannot instead use a brush to avoid hot cleanse rinses as this would help the release of Bisphenol A even quicker, referring to the wearing of the material. At least this is what I read in most reports that one should never brush Polycarbonate bottles.
In other words a lot of little varrying details that we could quickly overlook if we only concencentrate on a 1 minute blend “only” in a Polycarbonate container being unharmfull.
I know I get a bit extreme with this whole study of Bisphenol A, but on the other hand it is better to study a few days on it, and see what it is all about, then sticking the head in the sand and believe everything will be fine in the end because we only use the blender maybe 2 minutes a day.
My Vitamix is out, and I will get the blender from Krups that Ananda suggested. Until now that is the most powerfull blender that I could find with a glass carafe.
p.s. Also interesting to know is that the inside coating film in Alumiunium cans of Soda pops or beer cans is also made from Polycarbonate (huge Bisphenol A concentrations have been found). Just a warning to the people who sometimes smuggle along their Raw food diet and have a can. My suggestion is just stick with glass bottles/jars for everything you buy or what you take with you and you are on the save side.
A great thread. I wish we could do something about the vitamix company and convince them somehow to have glass available… I was actually pretty dead set on getting a vitamix till I read this, now I will change my mind. Hmm… not to mention Vitamixes are terribly expensive. So people, what do you recommend?? Krups? And why?
I have not recommended the Krups or any other blender. I just saw that it has a fairly strong motor.the feedback on epinions wasnt great though. so please do your own research and report back here if you find something good.
Well the problem is I dont understand how blenders work… what makes them good? what is a good motor? what are the terms?
Keep in mind also that Ive only discovered raw foodism 1 month ago.
Sorry, I misinterpreted your message where you didn’t advice the Krups but only mentioned your find.
Please tell us, where did you find any reviews about this 7000 series Krups blender, I am really curious what others wrote about it ?
This is deeply saddening…I use mine all the time. :(
Okay, my husband just went to the vitamix site to check it out.
And they are advertising the NEW VitaMix 5200. The polycarbonate
container has been replaced with a BPA-Free container. We found
it to be quite interesting, especially when you read “the most
frequently asked questions about the VitaMix 5200”.
Our thoughts start to linger into our other appliances we already have.
Such as our Cusinart food processor. I mean plastic is plastic.
And when you watch the youtube stream that Shaker posted on page one
it is just flat out scary. Really….sex hormones!!!
I have a friend that uses glass Perrier bottles for her water. She keeps a milk crate in the trunk of her car to store the full ones in so they don’t roll all over the floor of the car. A good option as long as you aren’t clumsy and drop the bottles :-( As far as the blenders go, I had the same dilemma over the plastic but I ended up buying a KTec and I don’t leave anything in it longer than I have to. I think the Blind Guru (www.blindguru.com) offers a 3.5 hp blender, which is very powerful, but I think that the container is also plastic. I love my old Oster blender with a glass container but it isn’t nearly powerful enough for some of the raw food requirements.
Just had another thought, slightly off topic but along the same lines…It is very difficult to decrease toxins in our environment and here we are, eating raw food, some or all organic, recycling and doing what we can for the planet, but we have the same toxicity issue with dehydrators. We place food directly on plastic trays and heat the trays along with the food. This is prolonged contact with plastic! This doesn’t even include the use of Teflex sheets, which are filled with toxic chemicals including fluoride, a neurotoxin. I really appreciate this website where people can share their comments and concerns. It is really nice having this forum to discuss matters like this. It is a place where we can have power in numbers and hopefully find some solutions to these problems. I look forward to contacting these companies to let them know that there is a demand for safer products. Thanks all. (OK, I’ll get off of my soapbox now).
Shaker, no problem. i just dont want people thinking i an recommending it. the website is called epinions. it is peoples reveiws of products. put in the keywords krups blender and read the reveiws.
What do you think of this new tritan material?